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BigDad
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Post subject: rolling road graphs for viewing  Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:43 pm |
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anyone seen these before? rolling road graphs from load of cars, actual bhp and torque at wheels. http://www.rri.se/index.php?DN=29&List=M-Nmakes interesting reading -the 3MPS actually produces more at the wheels than an 08 Scooby STi across virtually the whole rev range (apart form at the very top end). if you go to the download section, you can get a pdf version with figures across various points in the rev range, as well as the graphs.
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MazdaTech
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Post subject: Re: rolling road graphs for viewing Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:24 pm |
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I can fully believe the 3 MPS produces more WHP than an STi as it has less transmission loss due to being only 2WD.
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paz
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Post subject: Re: rolling road graphs for viewing Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:30 pm |
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what am i missing here? isn't 244 and 252 very high for WHP given the BHP of the 3mps.
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MazdaTech
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Post subject: Re: rolling road graphs for viewing Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:35 pm |
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paz wrote: what am i missing here? isn't 244 and 252 very high for WHP given the BHP of the 3mps. Yes they are  usually between 215 and 225 WHP, i can't see the link myself as i'm on my phone. 
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BigDad
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Post subject: Re: rolling road graphs for viewing Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:42 pm |
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thats what I thought.
looking at it agian, they do say its 'power available to the wheels', whatever that is?
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paz
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Post subject: Re: rolling road graphs for viewing Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:45 pm |
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MazdaTech wrote: paz wrote: what am i missing here? isn't 244 and 252 very high for WHP given the BHP of the 3mps. Yes they are usually between 215 and 225 WHP, i can't see the link myself as i'm on my phone. not sure if this will format correctly for phone but this is the reading for the 2006 3mps : Performance Powertrain performance Wheel power 188 (256 / 252) kW (PS / bhp) at 1/min 5515 Total wheel torque / total reduction 377 (278) Nm (lb-ft) at 1/min 2808 Stated engine performance Engine power 191 (260 / 256) kW (PS / bhp) at 1/min 5500 Engine torque 380 (280) Nm (lb-ft) at 1/min 3000
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Trappy
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Post subject: Re: rolling road graphs for viewing Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:24 am |
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They are all flywheel figures on that site, and I've seen it before. In fact I've linked to it on here before. Great site 
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paz
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Post subject: Re: rolling road graphs for viewing Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:01 am |
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Sorry - I know I'm old and from essex but are we saying the wheel power isn't wheel horse power?
I thought the higher figure was the flywheel bhp? (In the above example 256......)
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MazdaTech
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Post subject: Re: rolling road graphs for viewing Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:06 am |
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From what you've posted it seems they mean flywheel power not power at the wheels. Your not old don't worry.
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paz
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Post subject: Re: rolling road graphs for viewing Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:13 am |
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Yep I have been looking at that all night and now realise I have been reading it completely wrong.
Time for my whiskey and kip I think.............
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